courtney love - dating, stalking, coercing & image building through men

This was inspired by some recent messages -

  • “Can I know more about this quote from Courtney about Edward Norton? ‘He’s been more of a daddy to Frances than Kurt ever was.“ and

  • “I’ve heard rumours that Courtney stalked Julian Cope and Ian McCulloch is there any truth to this?”

  • “I’ve seen some pictures of CL with Jeff Buckley. They were friends? What’s the story behind it?”

It brings us to the point of needing to mention that Courtney has constantly altered her stance on Kurt according to how she’s wanted to be seen in the media over the years. Let’s use what happened with Kurt as a launching point here. She’s a fame-whore and power hungry and her method of achieving each was by using popular men to secure a new level of celebrity for herself. Therefore, the man she would seem interested in would change according to what she wanted. If one fell through, she’d exploit another. After Kurt died, she ran off with a multitude of male celebrities and insisted that they were her soulmates and fathers to unborn children that she pretended to have over a course of 20 years.

Her thing is that if she knows enough famous people it’ll mean that she’s famous. She equates fame with success. Thus, whilst exploiting various men, she uses their fame to gain fame for herself. Even though she came from money and always had access to it (including having somewhat of a famous family), she ultimately chose to exploit men for power that she didn’t actually need.

Her entire career is summarized as being the biggest waste of 30 years ever.

(See her full history below the cut)

pre kurt cobain (1980 - 1990)

Prior to Kurt Cobain being in the picture, Courtney practiced forcing herself into the lives of the men she wanted to exploit when she followed bands around England and New York in the 80s. Some of them, like Ian from the Bunnymen were clueless to being used, but others like Michael Mooney, Julian Cope, James Moreland, and Rozz Rezebak weren’t so naive. Moreland, in the midst of temporarily being married to her, was one of the first to mention how utterly monstrous and manipulative she can be. Similarly, in the midst of having numerous ‘cherry popped’ stories from Courtney about them taking her virginity, Mooney and Cope were more than happy to echo Moreland’s sentiments.

She basically stalked them, coerced them to interact with her, and invented stories and wives’ tales about her relationships with them to build a name for herself from scene to scene. Rozz Rezebak’s account is a combination of them and didn’t hold back in recollecting that she’d nearly sexually assaulted him (note - he refers to her as ‘THE GUY FROM CREED’) after months of stalking him at his college. Then even though the interviewer recently made their blog content private, this link featured an interview with him where he talked about how she’d stolen things from him and made his relationships toxic. A more ready example that’s infamous is when he listed her manipulative tendencies he’d experienced in Kurt and Courtney (start at 28:13, end around the 34:00 mark)

post kurt years (1994 - present)

Trent Reznor, Russell Crowe, Jeff Buckley,
Brad Pitt, and Steve Coogan

The sick thing is that that ain’t even the end of it though. That was just the beginning. She’d later decide to warp Trent Reznor’s sympathy for her into a relationship and claim to be pregnant with his child, and do the same thing to her former manager Jim Barber (mentioned below), Russell Crowe (Entertainment Weekly 2002 reference), and one night fling Steve Coogan. During the 90s she also (unsurprisingly) set up a date with Jeff Buckley to plant a headline, to which, Jeff himself confessed to feeling used by it (ctrl/cmd +f - “jeff”). It wasn’t so much a date as it was (Buckley was under the impression) an art appreciation night between acquaintances. However the ‘date’ became immortalized as one of many potential ‘flings’ Courtney designed to appear attractive and relevant at the time. Then, if we’re going to follow the same pattern, she denied they’d even dated at all in 2000, yet she insisted to Frances that they ‘did in fact date’ 10 years later in 2011. Prior to his death he even got a chance to take a sarcastic jab at her in 94′ in reference to the incited rumor that they were an item (ctrl/cmd + f - “courtney”).

Similarly, in 1995 she also planted the wives’ tale that she had fucked Brad Pitt, to which, in a very confused Buckley like fashion, denied with a raised eyebrow (ctrl/cmd + f - “courtney”). During the same year she also went as far to say that he’d given her a 4.5 carat diamond ‘friendship ring’ that she playfully denied signified dating (ctrl/cmd + f - “brad”), despite screaming, “Are you mad that I fucked Brad Pitt?!” in concert in the midst of a misogynistic rant to a female attende on stage that year. This is also in spite of the fact that she attempted ( **in a very Kate Moss’ tale like fashion **) to deny it later in 2013.

We need to talk about the damsel-in-distress trope she used to bag her some men who didn’t want her though -

Trent Reznor (1995 - sourced above) -  “I thought I was around someone who was a victim and somebody who could use a friend, and what I was around was a very good manipulator and a careerist, someone not to be underestimated.”
** Follow up - In reaction to this she started a 20 year rampage of talking about how small his dick was and implied that he was using her, and implied that he’d indirectly supported rape during his shows (ctrl/cmd + f - “trent”). She also alluded to in her book that he used her - again in a dramatic telling of events (Click on page 198).
** Tori Amos also indirectly, then later directly admitted to dedicating her song ‘Professional Widow’ to Courtney  (Edit - misread). Tori Amos’s fans speculate that Professional Widow is most likely about Courtney Love and the only person out of the two to make his chronic dislike of Courtney public is Trent. A good example can be found here (ctrl/cmd + f - “malicious”). The full back story, collected and told by an Amos fan with more access to crucial info, can be found here (ctrl/cmd + f - “courtney” then read the section added). Starfuckers Inc, which features an accurate depiction of Courtney, in an allusion to this, was also written by Reznor. 

Russell Crowe (2002 - sourced above + rough, bunched up transcript from bad html / if you copy + paste the whole thing into a blank doc you can see it - ctrl/cmd + f - “courtney”)
- “She was going through kind of a hard time. I’m a gentle soul, so we sat down and found a way for her to express what she was feeling, which was writing it down. And she got to the point where what she was writing was really upsetting.(…) I always had a lot of time for her until earlier this year when she kind of verbally attacked a really good friend of mine, so now I see her in a different light. (…) And also the fact that she didn’t come out and say, "No, it wasn’t a sexual relationship” until 10 or 11 months later. That bothered me. She got pregnant and had a miscarriage or something, so it was printed that it must be my child, right? She didn’t come out and say it wasn’t possible since there was no sexual relationship.”
** Follow up - She also tried to force him to ‘apologize’ for saying this and attempted to victimize herself by saying that she felt like a “sexual pariah.” It’s a cheap attempt she used to force him using emotional blackmail to win sympathy points (ctrl/cmd + f - “pariah”). It unfortunately may have worked. She also took this anecdote about what happened and twisted it to mean something romantic. You can find evidence of that here.

When you’re planting false pregnancy stories to force men to stay with you (1), stalking them (2), fighting their girlfriends (Crowe’s and Barbers - both linked), and trapping them using the same damsel in distress methods that caught you your last big celebrity exploit (see above), it’s obvious that you’re..not..actually..interested..in..love.

What you’re interested in is the bottom line - Money and Exposure.

Kurt was just one of many she attempted to exploit. Now with MOH’s promotion, despite throwing him under the bus for 20 years post mortem, she’s suddenly circled back to say things like, “I would’ve wanted to have 2.5 kids with him.”

Hold up, gold-digger.

You don’t say that about someone who wore you ragged with their misanthropy and who was a shit father in comparison to a man you dumped for a movie role and who you accused of fraud in the end anyway). You also don’t say that about someone you’ve thrown under the bus and regularly exploited for headlines either. Nevertheless someone you regularly abused for the entire length of your marriage.

What’s interesting is that you can’t even say that this some sort of misogynistic attack on women. In reality men are capable of the same thing. The problem is that you don’t hear anything about it. While it’s misogynistic to expect women to be gold diggers, it isn’t misogynistic to say that the ones that are, especially ones that believe death make good headlines, are exploitative and abusive pieces of trash.

Opposed to..strangely..chill people like this that are open to their partners about wanting to only use them for their money, Courtney prefers to pretend she doesn’t to continue to image build.

The sad thing is is that she’s never been a household name. Her notoriety has amounted to valuing short of a plastic surgery broken socialite suffering from a mid-life crisis.

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